[dc-critmass-list] Jeremy's Response

[Miķelis Munters]

This is exactly the kind of thing I was very vaguely trying to get at, with
my mentioning of equality under the law. The point of cycling, or cmass(as i
understand it) isnt to deny motorists the road, but to heighten everyone's
awareness of cyclists. Its ours too, not "its ours, so there." And the
injustice and brutality of one group or regime is in no way any
justification for similar behavior on our part. The correctness of our
position should lend us enough fortitude to act in a manner superior to
those whose behavior we find so reprehensible. Lets ride and share, and most
of all enjoy ourselves (and pray these clouds part from us by this evening).

2008/4/4, Christine Turner <cerenurt at yahoo.com>:
>
> As an occasional lurker on this listserv, thank you
> Jeremy for posting exactly how I feel as well.  I have
> only been to one critical mass, last year, and Jeremy
> stated exactly the reason why I had little interest in
> attending another one.  I am all for supporting
> cyclist's rights and I believe there isn't enough
> state and citywide support for cyclists.  I also
> believe there are a lot of really awsome people in the
> cycling community.  However, some of the attitudes I
> came across during that one critical mass I attended
> were offputting...yelling at people in SUVs, etc.
>
> It's so easy to go with the Us vs. Them mentality, to
> take your anger out on perceived enemies.  It takes
> guts to confront so-called enemies head-on with a
> strong, positive and inspiring attitude.
>
> Maybe this got a little off topic from the original
> discussion, but the thread opened an opportunity for
> me to vent a little.  So that's my 2 cents.  Take it
> or leave it.
>
> Christine
>
>
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:35:58 -0400
> > From: jeremy ogusky <jeremyogusky at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [dc-critmass-list] dc-critmass-list
> > Digest, Vol 63, Issue
> >       1
> > To: Madeline Tilton <madeline.tilton at gmail.com>,
> > chris moore
> >       <btownbikedeath at msn.com>
> > Cc: dc-critmass-list at lists.mutualaid.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <BAY101-W12EE41A5459F3A9F2CFDB9DFF70 at phx.gbl>
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> >
> > Madeline,
> >
> > thank you for your question. I would be very
> > interested to know if any of you have been accosted,
> > ticketed or bothered by police while on a bike. And
> > if so, why?
> >
> > i have refrained from writing thus far, b/c the
> > amount of anger in previous emails has surprised &
> > saddened me.
> >
> > the only thing i want to say is that while we as
> > cyclists should *definitely* be respected while
> > using the public streets, we too have to respect the
> > laws that govern our roads. I write this in
> > solidarity with all you other city cyclists. i think
> > we should challenge and force the city to become
> > safer for cyclists, but only through productive
> > ways. Yelling at police officers and blatantly
> > disregarding the rules of the road does a
> > dis-service to all other cyclists i believe.
> >
> > my 2 cents. thanks for reading,
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> > Jeremy Clark Ogusky
> > 3420 16th Street NW, #404
> > Washington DC, 20010
> > phone: 202 588 1840"The microbe is nothing. The
> > terrain is everything."--Louis Pasteur
> >
> > Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:01:52 -0400
> > From: madeline.tilton at gmail.com
> > To: btownbikedeath at msn.com
> > CC: dc-critmass-list at lists.mutualaid.org
> > Subject: Re: [dc-critmass-list] dc-critmass-list
> > Digest, Vol 63, Issue 1
> >
> > does anyone have any personal stories of getting
> > ticketed? i talked to a cop that comes into the
> > restaurant that i work at in dupont and asked him
> > about it, he told me that basically he's not going
> > to stop anyone on a bike (he is a bike cop) unless
> > they're flagrantly violating the law and creating
> > unnecessary dangers to other people (running a red
> > light with a lot of traffic and drastically
> > increasing the potential for an accident etc.).
> > other than that he said its not worth his time,
> > though this is only one cop i'd still like to know
> > just how many people are actually getting stopped
> > and ticketed on a bike
> > -Madeline
> >
>
>
>
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