[dc-critmass-list] Fwd: [veloteers] Stopped by police on the way out of the coop meeting tonight

[DancesWithCars]

Looks like I've been removed from AlexandriaBPAC
without notice and I'm not sure if there is even a
removal process in anything close to bylaws
of that reorganizing group...


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: DancesWithCars <danceswithcars at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 AM
Subject: Fwd: [veloteers] Stopped by police on the way out of the coop
meeting tonight
To: AlexandriaBPAC <alexandriabpac at googlegroups.com>


Tuesday July 19th around 9.30+ pm.

Currently giving warnings, but will be enforcing
ticketing...

I would think bringing in that officer
to a BPAC meeting might be a good
idea, if I were still goingm which I'm not
sure it's worth it given the last meeting.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jerry Dance <jerry.dance at velocitycoop.org>
Date: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [veloteers] Stopped by police on the way out of the coop
meeting tonight
To: veloteers at velocitycoop.org, danceswithcars at gmail.com, The Bike
House House <thebikehouse at gmail.com>, The Bike House
<TheBikeHouse at googlegroups.com>


That would have been pushing it,
as I was considered talking back
when just asked enough to try to figure
out which intersections he had seen me at
in the days/ weeks previous.

It was just a warning,
but the only time I've been stopped
on a bike in a very long time.

They are going to start enforcing and ticketing
especially along Union Street.  They want
bikers to stop like cars, "You are a vehicle,
like a car and must obey laws/ rules/ etc"

I don't think he was a bike cop on different
days, and seem to think I should have had my
headlight on, With the helmet headlight,
the handlebar one is working intermittently
on and off these days, good to see more on,
but still not reliable to tour this weekend...

If my NightRider on the helmet was on,
and I were looking at him, It would have been
blinding and further the rant he had towards
"you bikers".  I was one of a class of people
he didn't like, instead of here is specifically
what you did wrong (no complete stop,
blew through all 7 stops, etc), don't do it again.

He did seem to think I was going to get hit
biking that way, and a lot of the people are complaining
about it in old town, and police don't like it,
(I think he hates the detail of enforcing bikers,
as below / beneath him).

I basically do Messenger rules, ignore signs and stuff,
like DC, and CritMass, as stopping in certain parts of town
can get me knocked off, by cars and thugs.

But I am concerned with safety and avoid pedestrians,
at all costs...
He said the car(s) had stopped because there were people
in front of the cars, and thought I was going to hit them...

He basically wants bikes to sit behind car exhaust and
stop (losing our A/C), even when cars are blocking
the bike lane, double parked etc...

He seemed to tell me to stay on the trail,
but then corrected himself that I can be on the road too.
(reference a comment I had on photos of grates
and design issues on Eisenhower Ave bridges?)

I think with the Tasing Pedicabber in DC and stuff
this is going to be bad, or the potential to be really bad,
someone stopped while biking is not going to know
if it is going to get ugly and brutal...


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 9:03 AM, REDACTED wrote:
> Fuck cops.
>
> Did you get his badge number?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Jerry Dance <jerry.dance at velocitycoop.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Stopped by the police today in Old Town Alexandria, VA
>>
>> He didn't like me at all.
>> Said he was following me, and watching me...
>>
>> He seemed to hate bicyclists, and said something about the other day,
>> and when I asked Sunday? He said I was talking back to him.
>>
>> I was merely trying to figure out which day and intersections he was
>> referring to by my routes/ to do lists. This is about Wednesday?
>> Yes, he said. (the day I videotaped the TakeDown, just put up today)
>>
>> He didn't like my "getup" [clothing]. Said he had yelled at me when
>> he was in plain clothes and I didn't hear him or stop because I was
>> going too fast. That would be a rare occurence for me, because of
>> the heat, my age and how much I'm usually carrying.
>>
>> He eventually noticed my cameras, said they were on,
>> and let me go.
>>
>> No where in this monologue were there spaces for me to really
>> reply or catch up to what he was saying. As an tired disabled
>> person, I was not following which made him even madder.
>>
>> I'd been out in 105 degree heat index today, and had
>> very little sleep, after walking out of an Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory
>> Committee meeting last night.
>> Collapse this post
>> NoVAPeers / AfricanAmericansDon'tBike2011

http://novapeers.pbworks.com/AfricanAmericansDon%27tBike2011

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