[Mintwood-place] no public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZTCommittee mtg

Tue Oct 4 13:49:52 EDT 2011

Search indicates that KaliSEAL at aol.com is perhaps connected to Adams Moran Main Street since this email made announcements related to scheduling at the Adams Morgan Festival.
See KaliSEAL at
http://eventful.com/washington/events/funk-ark-/E0-001-033266273-1

http://eventful.com/washington/events/bechma-salsa-contest-/E0-001-033266258-2

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From: Denis James <denisjames at verizon.net>
To: kaliseal at aol.com; AdamsMorgan at yahoogroups.com; mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mintwood-place] no public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZTCommittee mtg

“Lamar”,

Why don’t you come out from hiding
and reveal who you really are? 

For someone to have all the details that
you seem to have of what happens at this or that meeting over the years,
someone like me who knows just about everyone at any given community meeting
would surely have been introduced by now or come to know at least who you are.

I strongly suspect that this is just a
nom de plume of convenience for one of the usual scavengers trying to suck up
some of the loose change floating around the proposed hotel project.

I stand by my former statements on this
subject. I always sign my real name to everything I write. I have no on-line
alter-egos.

Denis James

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From:mintwood-place-bounces at lists.mutualaid.org
[mailto:mintwood-place-bounces at lists.mutualaid.org] On Behalf Of kaliseal at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011
1:07 PM
To: AdamsMorgan at yahoogroups.com; mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org
Subject: Re: [Mintwood-place] no
public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZTCommittee mtg

Interesting. 
   Chris when you were on the  Advisory Neighborhood Commission
(ANC), your Committee did not post notices 7 days in advance and neither
did the ANC as a whole always do so, and yet neither you nor Denis said
anything about the "DC Code" whenever the technicality of notices was
not met. (For large, one-time special meetings a higher standard has always
been followed.)
   There have been more total ANC, residential, and developer
meetings about this hotel project than any other development project in the
history of Adams Morgan. (may rank pretty high city-wide). Your crack about
"disservice to the community" is absurd given the total number of
meetings, and given the standard you followed you when an ANC commissioner.
   Denis, under the previous ANC chair, the
agenda of committees was almost never published in advance, and you did
not  complain, write about it on the list servs... nor did anyone of us,
because a few days notice is fine. Also, everyone knows you have been unerring
about publishing, usually more than once, your Kalorama Citizens Association
(KCA) meetings on the list servs, and that your meeting for the hotel Vote on
"concerns for planning"  is the first time you did not do so. 
   Your
sanctimony does not sit well with many and now causes me me to be less
supportive of you than I have been in the past. Since Wes Combs decided to
speak up, some others of us feel we should also.
Regards, Lamar Cousins
-----Original
Message-----
From: Chris Version II.O <chrisotten2 at yahoo.com>
To: kaliseal <kaliseal at aol.com>; adamsmorgan
<adamsmorgan at yahoogroups.com>; wreynoldsanc <wreynoldsanc at aol.com>;
denisjames <denisjames at verizon.net>  Cc: mintwood-place <mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org>;
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 11:21 pm  Subject: Re: [Mintwood-place] no public
notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZT Committee mtg
Actually, to clarify as a former Commissioner, ANC's by DC Code
are to give at least 7 days notice of publicly held meetings.  In fact for
the 2010 December special ANC meeting about the proposed hotel project, because
the initial call was not put out within 7 days of the meeting, it had to be
rescheduled.
This hotel project is of critical importance to the future of our
neighborhood.  By not noticing this meeting, it certainly does a
disservice to our community -- at least the community that is online.  For
those who are not, it seems they are left in the dark almost all the time.
Chris O.  202-536-4065

From:"kaliseal at aol.com"
<kaliseal at aol.com>
To: adamsmorgan at yahoogroups.com; wreynoldsanc at aol.com; denisjames at verizon.net
Cc: mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org; wcombs at witeckcombs.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011
12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mintwood-place] no
public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZT Committee
mtg       
        Denis, am generally supportive of
you, but you look silly and mean spirited for writing this to the
listservs.  "What's Up with that" is that ANC committees as a
rule usually post their meetings 48-72 hours in advance because no one pays
much attention before that.  "What's Up with that" is you are
the Pot calling the Kettle black because you held the last KCA meeting with a
Vote on the hotel issue and for the first time ever you failed to post notice
of the meeting on any ListServ anywhere at any time -- which you always do
without fail,  and you did not put any flyers on the street as you usually
do. Wesley Combs rightly called you out on this during your own KCA Sept
meeting.  "What's Up with that" is you have been in the room
when this Oct 4 PZT meeting and date was announced at both the ANC1C Sept 7.
monthly meeting and at PZT meeting on Sept 19.  
Regards, Lamar
Cousins
-----Original
Message-----

From: Denis James
<denisjames at verizon.net>
To: kaliseal <kaliseal at aol.com>; adamsmorgan
<adamsmorgan at yahoogroups.com>; wreynoldsanc <wreynoldsanc at aol.com>
Cc: mintwood-place <mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org>; wcombs
<wcombs at witeckcombs.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 1, 2011 2:23 am
Subject: RE: no public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZT Committee mtg

As
Chris Otten has pointed out, ANC’s by law, must give 7 days public notice
of their meetings. If I had not written today, what notice would have been
given by the ANC for the Tuesday, October 4,7 pm PZT meeting at the Festival Center, 1640 Columbia Road, where the Church Hotel and the
Comprehensive Plan will be discussed?
So,
I would hope that more folks than just me would be concerned about notice for
ANC meetings. These are publicly elected officials, whose “great
weight” affects us in many ways.
In
fact, the nature and subject matter of these PZT meetings is a topic that KCA
and Reed-Cooke Neighborhood Association leadership has repeatedly written to
PZT and ANC Chair Wilson Reynolds about, seeking clarity on the topics to be
covered and when, and the frequency of such meetings. 
 But
we have had no meaningful response. It is critical that a well-planned public
process take place for a project of such size and scope. Additionally, Mr.
Reynolds has not named the topics of future meetings on this issue at the
earlier meetings you reference, just that a meeting will take place, something
that is regularly scheduled as shown on the ANC website.
As
to your criticism of me and KCA actions, all KCA dues-paying members receive
our printed newsletter, mailed 1st class US mail, which announced
the meeting and agenda items, and every member who has shared their e-mail
address with us also gets timely notice. In addition, it is well known, and
published on our website, that KCA meets on the 3rd Thursday of each
month, September through June.
 I
doubt that this is the first time, nor will it be the last, that I don’t
go the extra mile and put up street signs and make list-serve announcements for
our meeting.
KCA,
under my leadership is determined to focus its voice to the various government
agencies that allow public participation to us as a 501c3 civic association.
That is why we passed a resolution on September 15 listing our concerns about
Mr. Friedman’s Hotel PUD application, and that resolution has been
forwarded to the Office of Planning as our community comment for inclusion in
the report they will prepare for the Zoning Commission.
 I
note that Mr. Reynolds did make a public apology, explanation and further
notice of the meeting in question after my initial posting.

-----Original Message-----
From: Denis James <denisjames at verizon.net> 
To: One List <adamsmorgan at yahoogroups.com>; wreynoldsanc at aol.com> Cc:
mintwood-place <mintwood-place at lists.mutualaid.org> 
Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 1:06 pm
Subject: [Mintwood-place] no public notice of October 4 ANC 1C PZT Committee
mtg
Wilson,I visited the ANC 1C
website today and found a notice for an ANC 1C PZT committee for October 4th at 7 pm at the Festival Center, 1640 Columbia Road, the topic being the Church
Hotel proposal and the DC Comprehensive Plan.But no notice here, or on the
Mintwood list.What’s up with that?  Denis

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