[Seedgeeks] Dan, Gabriel and all

[dan at openaccess.org]

Hello

Welcome to Bellingham.

Sorry I have so little time today/tonight.

The Perennial Collards I know about were from Bountiful Gardens. Info from
them was that they are not cold hardy, even in Northern California. I have
not tested this. OTOH there ARE perennial kales and such in Europe. I
believe it would take a large effort to get them here as cuttings. I think
they do make seed at least somewhat. So that is the way to do it. Still a
large effort. I would love to work with someone who would take the
information I have and persue it. Probably one person would be successful
and not turn off the source person I found.

My approach might include growing the Bountiful Garden Perennial Collards
in a protected place inside for the winter and crossing with the other
perennial brassicas --like perennial broccoli--I might find, or Lacinato,
or couave tronchuna (hey I can't remember how to spell that and I am not
going to look it up right now), or I might just get them all to cross and
see what happens......

How much time and effort do you want to devote to such a project?

Have you read Carol Deppe's "Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties"?

At the moment I am struggling economically after some difficult years. So
have had little time for my garden. I feel really sad abt this.........

OTOH we had a large helping of steamed Lacinato Kale from our garden
tonight and there are eight beds currently planted with over-wintering
greens.

write back soon, I will reply as fast as I can.....
Dan

> Seedgeeks post:Thanks for the replies, guys,
>
> We have a place in the Birchwood neighborhood.  It's a good sized lot with
> good solar orientation.  Still too many trees at the present, but that's
> on the short list.  A large Atlas cedar and big leaf maple are coming down
> in the very near future.  Wood heat coming soon.
>
> We're working towards a food-forest arrangement in the back yard.  The
> place has 4 old apples, an old cherry an old pear and an old plum.  Old is
> the operative word for the yard.  Has needed lots of cutting back and
> pruning.  But, it's underway.  I'm working mostly with perennials,
> insectaries, mulch producers, etc to get a working backbone of plantlife
> in place to support the insects.  Slowly...
>
> I'll get to make it to Pt. Townsend sometime this month with a visiting
> friend.  Haven't been able to see much of it, but it always felt like the
> only other WA alternative for us.  Who is your friend who moved to town?
> Would be fun to meet him.  There are other PC people scattered around the
> area.
>
> Dan, you probably know the Bullock's from Orcas.  I was able to take their
> certificate course last summer.  Quite an experience! Dynamite food, too!!
>
> So, plantwise, I have a lot of perennials sitting close together waiting
> to go into permanent beds which can be created over the winter after the
> trees are down, split and stacked.  Patience, patience.  I'm interested in
> perennial collards as they are perennial and they are collards, which I
> like a lot.  We were in north Florida for a long time, and the food in the
> south IS good, if heavy on the pork fat.
>
> I ran across the list when searching for perennial collards + Bellingham
> and saw your post, Dan.  What are you involved in at the moment?  And
> Gabriel, what about you?
>
> Gabriel, feel free to give my email to your friend here.
>
> Any other interesting plant site you all like?
>
> Gary
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