[Seedgeeks] Dan, Gabriel and all

Sun Sep 9 12:14:53 PDT 2007

Dan,

Glad you are set for winter greens.  We're not quite that far yet.

Breeding vegetables sounds like an interesting pasttime for someone.  I have all I can do to work and keep up with projects at home.  Maybe someone in Huxley at WWU could be of help?  They have an array of horticultural people.  Good luck with that.

I read an article on gardening in Seattle from 2003 which spoke of someone growing perennial collards there.  No source mentioned.  I am planning on ordering some Crambe maritima - SeaKale - one of these days.

Gary

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  From: dan at openaccess.org<mailto:dan at openaccess.org> 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 9:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Seedgeeks] Dan, Gabriel and all

  Seedgeeks post:
  Hello

  Welcome to Bellingham.

  Sorry I have so little time today/tonight.

  The Perennial Collards I know about were from Bountiful Gardens. Info from
  them was that they are not cold hardy, even in Northern California. I have
  not tested this. OTOH there ARE perennial kales and such in Europe. I
  believe it would take a large effort to get them here as cuttings. I think
  they do make seed at least somewhat. So that is the way to do it. Still a
  large effort. I would love to work with someone who would take the
  information I have and persue it. Probably one person would be successful
  and not turn off the source person I found.

  My approach might include growing the Bountiful Garden Perennial Collards
  in a protected place inside for the winter and crossing with the other
  perennial brassicas --like perennial broccoli--I might find, or Lacinato,
  or couave tronchuna (hey I can't remember how to spell that and I am not
  going to look it up right now), or I might just get them all to cross and
  see what happens......

  How much time and effort do you want to devote to such a project?

  Have you read Carol Deppe's "Breed Your Own Vegetable Varieties"?

  At the moment I am struggling economically after some difficult years. So
  have had little time for my garden. I feel really sad abt this.........

  OTOH we had a large helping of steamed Lacinato Kale from our garden
  tonight and there are eight beds currently planted with over-wintering
  greens.

  write back soon, I will reply as fast as I can.....
  Dan

  > Seedgeeks post:Thanks for the replies, guys,
  >
  > We have a place in the Birchwood neighborhood.  It's a good sized lot with
  > good solar orientation.  Still too many trees at the present, but that's
  > on the short list.  A large Atlas cedar and big leaf maple are coming down
  > in the very near future.  Wood heat coming soon.
  >
  > We're working towards a food-forest arrangement in the back yard.  The
  > place has 4 old apples, an old cherry an old pear and an old plum.  Old is
  > the operative word for the yard.  Has needed lots of cutting back and
  > pruning.  But, it's underway.  I'm working mostly with perennials,
  > insectaries, mulch producers, etc to get a working backbone of plantlife
  > in place to support the insects.  Slowly...
  >
  > I'll get to make it to Pt. Townsend sometime this month with a visiting
  > friend.  Haven't been able to see much of it, but it always felt like the
  > only other WA alternative for us.  Who is your friend who moved to town?
  > Would be fun to meet him.  There are other PC people scattered around the
  > area.
  >
  > Dan, you probably know the Bullock's from Orcas.  I was able to take their
  > certificate course last summer.  Quite an experience! Dynamite food, too!!
  >
  > So, plantwise, I have a lot of perennials sitting close together waiting
  > to go into permanent beds which can be created over the winter after the
  > trees are down, split and stacked.  Patience, patience.  I'm interested in
  > perennial collards as they are perennial and they are collards, which I
  > like a lot.  We were in north Florida for a long time, and the food in the
  > south IS good, if heavy on the pork fat.
  >
  > I ran across the list when searching for perennial collards + Bellingham
  > and saw your post, Dan.  What are you involved in at the moment?  And
  > Gabriel, what about you?
  >
  > Gabriel, feel free to give my email to your friend here.
  >
  > Any other interesting plant site you all like?
  >
  > Gary
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