[SustainableTompkins] Maintaining list integrity

Patricia Haines ph24 at kaxy.com
Fri Nov 17 11:30:18 PST 2006


I apologize for the home-mate listing. I had thought of Sustainable Tompkins as my key community
here in Ithaca, and since I'm picky about who I open my home to, and sustainability is the framework
within which I want to share my home, it seemed a good venue. I won't do anything so personal again.
- Patricia Haines

----- Original Message -----
From: GayNicholson at aol.com
To: sustainabletompkins at lists.mutualaid.org
Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:16:54 EST
Subject: Re: [SustainableTompkins] Maintaining list integrity

>  
>  
> I agree that the Sustainable Tompkins listserv is not the appropriate  
> vehicle for finding a housemate, advertising your business, or soliciting  support 
> for causes that, though ultimately connected to a vision of  sustainability, 
> are a bit far afield from our original purpose.
>  
> We set up the ST listserv to provide a place to promote local, regional,  and 
> even national conferences and events that are related to sustainability, a  
> place to share educational articles on sustainability topics, and a place to  
> discuss,debate or ask questions about issues confronting the  sustainable 
> community movement.  The overarching goal is to create a  learning community so we 
> can improve our capacity to deal with the  complexity of transitioning to more 
> sustainable living.
>  
> Dan Roth suggested we might try a self-administered method of categorizing  
> our posts into events, articles, and discussions.  He thought we could put  in 
> our subject line a preface such as [article] or [event] to let folks skip  
> over the kind of post that they don't have time to read.  This may be  useful.
>  
> But I do want to urge people to edit themselves when deciding what to  post.  
> If you have a need like finding a housemate, it is perhaps better to  blind 
> copy everyone in your address book than to send it to a listserv.  
>  
> I am one of the list administrators and I can not volunteer to turn this  
> into a moderated list because of time constraints.  I already get a dozen  or 
> more alerts a day from the server about approving posts from non members  (mostly 
> spam lately).  
>  
> I hope we can all take a thoughtful approach to keeping this list  attractive 
> to the majority of its subscribers.  Many of us occasionally  mess up and 
> post something not quite on target, or forget and reply to the whole  list 
> instead of an individual.  We can try and be tolerant of these lapses  while also 
> sharing an expectation that we will respect each other's time in a  saturated 
> information environment.
>  
> best to all,
> Gay
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/16/2006 4:45:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> tjs1 at cornell.edu writes:
> 
> At 03:07  PM 11/16/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi Patricia,
> >
> >I'm not  talking so much about geography as about subject matter. ...rest  
> >deleted...
> 
> Dear List Members--I agree whole heartedly with  Jon.  I "owned", for 
> several years, a large, professionally oriented,  topical mailing list (600 
> subscribers!) run off the Cornell  listserv.  Off-topic threads had to be 
> squelched quickly or I would  have dozens of subscribers resign at once as 
> they didn't have the time or  inclination to participate in a mailing list 
> that roamed all over the  place.
> 
> I think it is important to maintain a focus on sustainability  and have 
> posts on animal conservation, anit-war efforts, etc., be  redirected to 
> suitable lists or forums.  [Steve, have you considered  setting the list up 
> as a monitored list?]  I have enjoyed the list  and have participated in 
> discussions on and off, but I plow through over  200 e-mails each day and 
> don't want to waste my time on stuff that isn't  related to sustainability, 
> either.
> 
> My $.02.  Tom
> 
> Tom  Shelley
> 118 E. Court St.
> Ithaca, NY 14850
> 607  342-0864
> tjs1 at cornell.edu
> http://www.myspace.com/99319958   
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