[SustainableTompkins] Maintaining list integrity

Molly Brewton mb105 at cornell.edu
Fri Nov 17 12:19:00 PST 2006 

Hi All,

Since I'm the one who originally objected to the posting, in should say 
that, in hindsight, after some clarifying e-mails, it seems like Patricia's 
intention behind her posting was something that I would think would be 
appropriate.  It was just not clear to me, from the wording, that that's 
what she was intending.

To clarify: I, personally, think it's fine to post an opening for a 
housemate to this list if the point is made explicitly that you want them 
to be part of an intentional, sustainably-oriented household.  I was just 
saying that housemate wanted posts that do not stipulate 
intentionality--i.e. that one might see at a regular housing bulletin 
board--do not seem appropriate.

My two (now four, I guess) cents.

Molly

At 02:30 PM 11/17/2006, you wrote:
>I apologize for the home-mate listing. I had thought of Sustainable 
>Tompkins as my key community
>here in Ithaca, and since I'm picky about who I open my home to, and 
>sustainability is the framework
>within which I want to share my home, it seemed a good venue. I won't do 
>anything so personal again.
>- Patricia Haines
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: GayNicholson at aol.com
> >
> > I agree that the Sustainable Tompkins listserv is not the appropriate
> > vehicle for finding a housemate, advertising your business, or 
> soliciting  support
> > for causes that, though ultimately connected to a vision 
> of  sustainability,
> > are a bit far afield from our original purpose.
> >
> > We set up the ST listserv to provide a place to promote local, 
> regional,  and
> > even national conferences and events that are related to 
> sustainability, a
> > place to share educational articles on sustainability topics, and a 
> place to
> > discuss,debate or ask questions about issues confronting the  sustainable
> > community movement.  The overarching goal is to create a  learning 
> community so we
> > can improve our capacity to deal with the  complexity of transitioning 
> to more
> > sustainable living.
> >
> > Dan Roth suggested we might try a self-administered method of 
> categorizing
> > our posts into events, articles, and discussions.  He thought we could 
> put  in
> > our subject line a preface such as [article] or [event] to let folks skip
> > over the kind of post that they don't have time to read.  This may 
> be  useful.
> >
> > But I do want to urge people to edit themselves when deciding what 
> to  post.
> > If you have a need like finding a housemate, it is perhaps better 
> to  blind
> > copy everyone in your address book than to send it to a listserv.
> >
> > I am one of the list administrators and I can not volunteer to turn this
> > into a moderated list because of time constraints.  I already get a 
> dozen  or
> > more alerts a day from the server about approving posts from non 
> members  (mostly
> > spam lately).
> >
> > I hope we can all take a thoughtful approach to keeping this 
> list  attractive
> > to the majority of its subscribers.  Many of us occasionally  mess up and
> > post something not quite on target, or forget and reply to the whole  list
> > instead of an individual.  We can try and be tolerant of these 
> lapses  while also
> > sharing an expectation that we will respect each other's time in 
> a  saturated
> > information environment.
> >
> > best to all,
> > Gay
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/16/2006 4:45:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > tjs1 at cornell.edu writes:
> >
> > At 03:07  PM 11/16/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Hi Patricia,
> > >
> > >I'm not  talking so much about geography as about subject matter. 
> ...rest
> > >deleted...
> >
> > Dear List Members--I agree whole heartedly with  Jon.  I "owned", for
> > several years, a large, professionally oriented,  topical mailing list 
> (600
> > subscribers!) run off the Cornell  listserv.  Off-topic threads had to be
> > squelched quickly or I would  have dozens of subscribers resign at once as
> > they didn't have the time or  inclination to participate in a mailing list
> > that roamed all over the  place.
> >
> > I think it is important to maintain a focus on sustainability  and have
> > posts on animal conservation, anit-war efforts, etc., be  redirected to
> > suitable lists or forums.  [Steve, have you considered  setting the 
> list up
> > as a monitored list?]  I have enjoyed the list  and have participated in
> > discussions on and off, but I plow through over  200 e-mails each day and
> > don't want to waste my time on stuff that isn't  related to 
> sustainability,
> > either.
> >
> > My $.02.  Tom
> >
> > Tom  Shelley
> > 118 E. Court St.
> > Ithaca, NY 14850
> > 607  342-0864
> > tjs1 at cornell.edu
> > http://www.myspace.com/99319958
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> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Gay  Nicholson, Ph.D.
> >
> > 607-533-7312 (home office)
> > 607-279-6618  (cell)
> >
> > 1 Maple Avenue
> > Lansing, NY  14882
> > gaynicholson at aol.com
> >
> > Sustainable Tompkins
> > Program  Coordinator
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> >
> > Southern Tier Energy$mart Communities
> > Regional  Coordinator
> > Cornell Cooperative Extension of Tompkins County
> > 615 Willow  Ave., Ithaca, NY 14850
> > agn1 at cornell.edu
> >
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