[SustainableTompkins] FW: No Regrets Decisions

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Are you the John Miller that was featured in NPR today?  Great  story!
 
In a message dated 10/11/2006 10:36:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
johndmiller at gtcinternet.com writes:

Resending- original message returned as attachments Mark sent too  large
for your servers.  I will digest and forward any good  stuff/summary of
them.
John

-----Original Message-----
From:  John Miller [mailto:johndmiller at gtcinternet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October  11, 2006 10:07 AM
To: 'Mark Coleman'; 'bosak at ibiblio.org'
Cc:  'sustainabletompkins at lists.mutualaid.org'
Subject: FW:  [SustainableTompkins] No Regrets Decisions

Mark- thanks much for all  the inputs  Depending on what others forward,
I may take this on  (creating some fairly simple economic examples) as I
think it is extremely  important for mainstreaming sustainability,
changing the mindset. I will  copy you as I move along.  RIT is my alma
mater (ME 1968) and I'd be  interested in what is going on there and in
Rochester on  sustainability.  I met (and drank copious amounts of beer
from a glass  boot) with several RIT members of Engineers for a
Sustainable World couple  weeks ago in Iowa City and thinking of doing an
at risk youth/community  service outreach project in Rochester as part of
a multi city pilot program  that would bring more diversity into
engineering and produce local  entrepreneurs to create green jobs.  At
the Iowa conference, Brendan  Owens  LEEDS director of US Green Building
Council presented- they do  lots of work on metrics. Their membership and
number of big developers-  like Larry Silverstein in NYC- is growing
rapidly.

Jon Bosak- is TC  working on simple models/examples for food, energy and
mfg net  impacts?  I'll be glad (for now) to see if I can help on  this.

John

From: Mark Coleman [mailto:mccasp at rit.edu] 
Sent:  Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:03 PM
To:  johndmiller at gtcinternet.com
Subject: RE: [SustainableTompkins] No Regrets  Decisions

John:

Just saw your inquiry. There has not been many  comprehensive studies on
the net economic benefits of sustainable policy  and actions on
local/regional economies. There is a need in fact, for such  research and
understanding, to help further the case for sustainable  communities. 

There has been however numerous attempts to quantify the  benefits of
everything from wind manufacturing to green buildings to  cleaner
transportation.

Attached I share some files I had at my  fingertips for you. If I had the
time I'd mine out the data for you,  unfortunately all I can do is pass
these along for now.

Hope this  helps you; and in my view; the net benefits of sustainable
policies coupled  with incentives, education, and market demand are real,
and not really much  of a debate. The key is for society at large to
begin an adopt more and  more technologies. 

Also consider - net energy use for food production  and transport versus
locally grown, processed, and transported food/agri.  

Best,

Mark Coleman  

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Mark C.  Coleman
Senior Program Manager
Center for Integrated Manufacturing  Studies (CIMS)
Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT)
111 Lomb Memorial  Drive, Building 78, Room 1005
Rochester, New York 14623-5608
Tel:   (585)-475-4473
Email:  mccasp at rit.edu
Web:   www.cims.rit.edu
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-----Original  Message-----
From:  sustainabletompkins-bounces at lists.mutualaid.org
[mailto:sustainabletompkins-bounces at lists.mutualaid.org]  On Behalf Of
John Miller
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:39 PM
To:  'Sustainable Tompkins County listserv'
Subject: [SustainableTompkins] No  Regrets Decisions

Has anyone seen an analysis/projection on the net  economic effects of
strong sustainable policy/actions in energy, food and  local
manufacturing?  I tend to think that it will have a positive  effect,
create more net jobs and tax revenue.  Would be nice to see  some hard
numbers (as you can probably tell, I'm having a debate with a  skeptic!)
Further, after reading "Cradle to Cradle" and the likelihood that  in the
not too distant future all goods can/will be produced to be  recycled
into two streams (technical and biological) for true  materials
sustainability- we can have a good amount of consumption in  society and
still be sustainable.  
Thanks
John



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