[SustainableTompkins] deodorant

[Joey Gates]

I know that BO in my own personal case is definitely
tied to diet-any dairy, etc makes for less agreeable
output.  

When I lived in Korea, more than 1 person told me that
the Japanese invented room deodorizers to mask the
smell of the meaty westerners.  (I never verified with
Snopes mind you, this was way before then Most Koreans
then 1989-91 did not wear deoderant. 

--- Tony Del Plato <tonydelplato at gmail.com> wrote:

> Soap & water on a daily basis works for me too.
> Tony
> 
> On 2/26/08, Gail Blake <gail at kitchenchairmusic.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, to take up my own challenge and stay
> unashamed, try not using
> > deodorant. Just wash your arm pits every day (that
> sponge bath thing
> > if you're not showering). When I first tried this
> 25 years ago, the
> > first couple of weeks were pretty difficult. I
> smelled really bad -
> > it seemed like I was purging all those toxins that
> > deodorant/anti-perspirant had prevented me from
> purging for years. I
> > thought, "Wow, I am going to have to abandon this
> experiment!" Then
> > all of a sudden it got better and that daily
> washing took care of the
> > problem. I have spoken to other people who have
> had this same
> > experience. And if you think that I just got used
> to the smell, I am
> > willing to bet money that my coworkers, the people
> in my yoga class,
> > and the people I dance with don't think of me as
> "that smelly woman".
> >
> > When you think of what deodorant and
> anti-perspirant do - either mask
> > odors or prevent your body from perspiring, which
> is important to
> > ridding your body of toxins - you may want to look
> at other solutions
> > to the problem you are trying to solve. The odor
> is there because
> > there is something on your skin that has a smell
> you don't want to
> > have. Use plain old soap and water to wash it off.
> No more little
> > plastic bottles.
> >
> > Earthily, Gail
> >
> > At 04:29 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:
> > >I was not offended by Tony's comment (I gave him
> the benefit of the
> > >doubt and assumed he had tongue-in-cheek); in
> fact, given his
> > >profession (chef), I hope he does wash his hair
> more often than I do.
> > >
> > >But staying earthy (and along the lines of that
> great series of
> > >graphics re: all our "by-products" on display at
> IC):
> > >
> > >Does anyone have suggestions for deodorants that
> do not come with
> > >lots of plastic packaging?
> > >
> > >I brush my teeth with baking soda, and the
> cardboard container is
> > >easily recycled, but Tom's no longer has
> deodorant in glass bottles,
> > >and I hate to think how many plastic Tom's
> dispensers have been
> > >buried in Seneca Meadows on my behalf.
> > >
> > >We do have to balance ecological responsibility
> with social
> > >responsibility--minimizing BO.  Heavens, one
> reason Isabella
> > >bank-rolled Columbus was to get all those East
> Indian spices to mask
> > >odors.
> > >
> > >Margaret
> > >
> > >PS: actually, this has nothing to do with how
> smart we are: we
> > >habituate to our own BO, and this can be a
> problem in close
> > >quarters.  Ask Amy  (local girl makes good) seems
> to print a letter
> > >on the subject of how to diplomatically tell
> co-workers they have an
> > >odor several times a year--so scads of letters
> must be getting sent
> > >to her on the subject.  I've been meaning to
> write in to her saying
> > >that BO is not always a matter of hygiene;
> sometimes it reflects a
> > >health problem such as diabetes.  Other times
> it's just food
> > >preferences.  I know I have gone through garlic
> phases that were
> > >probably not pleasant in close quarters.
> > >
> > >
> > > >  > Frankly folks, I find some of this
> discussion a little......too
> > earthy.
> > > >
> > > >Nothing like a little shaming to put an end to
> a useful discussion. And
> > I
> > > >was just thinking how wonderful it is when this
> listserv becomes an
> > > >electronic "salon". I would go so far as to say
> that your insinuation
> > here
> > > >is a bit offensive, Tony.
> > > >
> > > >We really need to trust that everyone on the
> list is smart enough to
> > > >figure out when they are in danger of offending
> their co-workers and
> > need
> > > >to wash. Living more sustainable is going to
> mean challenging many of
> > the
> > > >behaviors that have been marketed to us by
> corporations and media. It's
> > > >going to bring up the ick factor for many of
> us. But if we don't have
> > an
> > > >honest and open dicussion, how can we ever hope
> to change things?
> > > >
> > > >Gail
> > > >
> > > >
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